2Pe_3:4

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2Pe_3:4
(*Greek NT)  καὶ λέγοντες· ποῦ ἐστὶν ἡ ἐπαγγελία τῆς παρουσίας αὐτοῦ; ἀφ᾿ ἧς γὰρ οἱ πατέρες ἐκοιμήθησαν, πάντα οὕτω διαμένει ἀπ᾿ ἀρχῆς κτίσεως .
(*Greek NT BYZ+)  και G2532 CONJ λεγοντες G3004 V-PAP-NPM που G4226 PRT-I εστιν G1510 V-PAI-3S η G3588 T-NSF επαγγελια G1860 N-NSF της G3588 T-GSF παρουσιας G3952 N-GSF αυτου G846 P-GSM αφ G575 PREP ης G3739 R-GSF γαρ G1063 CONJ οι G3588 T-NPM πατερες G3962 N-NPM εκοιμηθησαν G2837 V-API-3P παντα G3956 A-NPN ουτως G3779 ADV διαμενει G1265 V-PAI-3S απ G575 PREP αρχης G746 N-GSF κτισεως G2937 N-GSF
(*Greek NT TR)  και λεγοντες που εστιν η επαγγελια της παρουσιας αυτου αφ ης γαρ οι πατερες εκοιμηθησαν παντα ουτως διαμενει απ αρχης κτισεως
(Greek NT TR+)  και G2532 CONJ λεγοντες G3004 V-PAP-NPM που G4226 PRT-I εστιν G1510 V-PAI-3S η G3588 T-NSF επαγγελια G1860 N-NSF της G3588 T-GSF παρουσιας G3952 N-GSF αυτου G846 P-GSM αφ G575 PREP ης G3739 R-GSF γαρ G1063 CONJ οι G3588 T-NPM πατερες G3962 N-NPM εκοιμηθησαν G2837 V-API-3P παντα G3956 A-NPN ουτως G3779 ADV διαμενει G1265 V-PAI-3S απ G575 PREP αρχης G746 N-GSF κτισεως G2937 N-GSF
(*Greek NT WH+)  και G2532 CONJ λεγοντες G3004 V-PAP-NPM που G4226 PRT-I εστιν G1510 V-PAI-3S η G3588 T-NSF επαγγελια G1860 N-NSF της G3588 T-GSF παρουσιας G3952 N-GSF αυτου G846 P-GSM αφ G575 PREP ης G3739 R-GSF γαρ G1063 CONJ οι G3588 T-NPM πατερες G3962 N-NPM εκοιμηθησαν G2837 V-API-3P παντα G3956 A-NPN ουτως G3779 ADV διαμενει G1265 V-PAI-3S απ G575 PREP αρχης G746 N-GSF κτισεως G2937 N-GSF

King James Version This is the 1769
(KJV)  And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation .
(KJV+)  And G2532 saying, G3004 Where G4226 is G2076 the G3588 promise G1860 of his G846 coming? G3952 for G1063 since G575 G3739 the G3588 fathers G3962 fell asleep, G2837 all things G3956 continue G1265 as G3779 they were from G575 the beginning G746 of the creation . G2937
(YLT)  and saying, 'Where is the promise of his presence? for since the fathers did fall asleep, all things so remain from the beginning of the creation;'

Latin Vulgate Jerome's Latin Vulgate This is the 409
(Latin)  dicentes ubi est promissio aut adventus eius ex quo enim patres dormierunt omnia sic perseverant ab initio creaturae

Portuguese João Ferreira de Almeida Atualizada Published in 1877
(Portuguese JFAA)  e dizendo: Onde está a promessa da sua vinda? Porque, desde que os pais dormiram, todas as coisas permanecem como desde o princípio da criação .
(*Portuguese JFAC)  e dizendo: Onde está a promessa da sua vinda? Porque desde que os pais dormiram todas as coisas permanecem como desde o princípio da criação .
(NVI)  Eles dirão: "O que houve com a promessa da sua vinda? Desde que os antepassados morreram, tudo continua como desde o princípio da criação".

Spanish Reina-Valera Published in 1909
(Spanish RV)  Y diciendo: ¿Dónde está la promesa de su advenimiento? porque desde el día en que los padres durmieron, todas las cosas permanecen así como desde el principio de la creación .
(*Spanish RV+)  Y G2532 diciendoG3004: ¿Dónde G4226 está G2076 la G3588 promesa G1860 de su G846 advenimientoG3952? porque G1063 desde G575 el día en que G3739 los G3588 padres G3962 durmieron G2837, todas G3956 las cosas permanecen G1265 así G3779 como desde G575 el principio G746 de la G3588 creación G2937 .(*
Treasury of Scriptural Knowledge
by Canne, Browne, Blayney, Scott, and others, with introduction by R. A. Torrey. Published in 1834;
where: Gen_19:14; Ecc_1:9, Ecc_8:11; Isa_5:18-19; Jer_5:12-13, Jer_17:15; Eze_12:22-27; Mal_2:17; Mat_24:28; Luk_12:45
from the beginning: Mar_13:19; Rev_3:14
The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges
1882-1921;
2Pe_3:4
Where is the promise of his coming?] The question indicates the comparatively late date of the Epistle. St James had spoken (probably a. d. 50) of the Judge as standing at the door; St Paul had written twice as if he expected to be living on the earth when the Judge should come (1Th_4:15; 1Co_15:51; 2Co_5:4), and yet He came not. Men began to think that the Coming was a delusion.
for since the fathers fell asleep] Ordinarily, the “fathers,” as in Rom_9:5, would carry our thoughts back to the great progenitors of Israel as a people. Here, however, the stress laid by the mockers on the death of the fathers as the starting-point of the frustrated expectation, seems to give the word another application, and we may see in the “fathers” the first generation of the disciples of Christ, those who had “fallen asleep” without seeing the Advent they had looked for (1Th_4:15); those who had reached the “end of their conversation” (Heb_13:7). The scoffers appealed to the continuity of the natural order of things. Seed-time and harvest, summer and winter, followed as they had done from the beginning of the creation. In the last phrase we may trace an echo of Mar_10:6; Mar_13:19. “You have told us,” they seem to have said, “of an affliction such as there has not been from the beginning of the creation, and lo! we find the world still goes on as of old, with no great catastrophe.” The answer to the sneer St Peter gives himself, but it may be noted that the question of the scoffers at least implies the early date of the writings in which the expectation of the Coming is prominent.
In the use of the verb to “fall asleep” for dying, we are reminded of our Lord’s words “Our friend Lazarus sleepeth” (Joh_11:11); of St Paul’s “many sleep” (1Co_11:30). So in Greek sculpture Death and Sleep appear as twin genii, and in Greek and Roman epitaphs nothing is more common than the record that the deceased “sleeps” below. Too often there is the addition, as of those who were without hope, “sleeps an eternal sleep.” In Christian language the idea of sleep is perpetuated in the term “cemetery” (κοιμητήριον = sleeping-place) as applied to the burial-place of the dead, but it is blended with that of an “awaking out of sleep” at the last day, and even with the thought, at first seemingly incompatible with it, that the soul is quickened into higher energies of life on its entrance into the unseen world.
Jamieson, Fausset and Brown Commentary
A Commentary, Critical and Explanatory, on the Old and New Testaments. Published in 1871;

2 Peter 3:4
(Compare Psa_10:11; Psa_73:11.) Presumptuous skepticism and lawless lust, setting nature and its so-called laws above the God of nature and revelation, and arguing from the past continuity of nature’s phenomena that there can be no future interruption to them, was the sin of the antediluvians, and shall be that of the scoffers in the last days.
Where — implying that it ought to have taken place before this, if ever it was to take place, but that it never will.
the promise — which you, believers, are so continually looking for the fulfillment of (2Pe_3:13). What becomes of the promise which you talk so much of?
his — Christ’s; the subject of prophecy from the earliest days.
the fathers — to whom the promise was made, and who rested all their hopes on it.
all things — in the natural world; skeptics look not beyond this.
as they were — continue as they do; as we see them to continue. From the time of the promise of Christ’s coming as Savior and King being given to the fathers, down to the present time, all things continue, and have continued, as they now are, from “the beginning of creation.” The “scoffers” here are not necessarily atheists, nor do they maintain that the world existed from eternity. They are willing to recognize a God, but not the God of revelation. They reason from seeming delay against the fulfillment of God’s word at all.
 

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