Ghosts, or spirits of the dead

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Many people who want the immortality of the soul to be a fact seek certain concepts in the biblical scriptures to justify their positions, among them we have the following verse.

1Sa 28:11 The woman then asked him, Who will I bring you up to? He replied, "Take me up Samuel."
1Sa 28:12 And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried out with a loud voice, and spoke to Saul, saying, Why have you deceived me? for you are Saul yourself.

Samuel had died, and the necromancer made Samuel appear, was this Samuel the spirit of the dead?

First we must know who wrote the verse, the verse is 1 Samuel 28, was it Samuel who wrote it? But hadn't he died? Therefore, the verse of 1 Samuel 8 was not written by Samuel. Who wrote? Was it a prophet? Was it a priest? Who was?

Every king had a scribe, and he wrote down everything that happened so that the king would be remembered through the ages. Such pieces of written leather were kept and sewn together to form a book. So it was necessary to know who and for what he wrote.

In the bible we have three classes of text, prophetic texts, dictated or written by prophets, theological texts, dictated or written by theological thinkers, and historical reports, written by scribes through what they saw.

In order of importance we have the most important to the least important by theological factor.

  1. Texts formed by prophets.
  2. Texts formed by theologians
  3. Texts of historiographical description.

We see notably that the text of 1 Samuel 28, comes from a historiographical block. In which the scribe writes everything he observes.

Then the scribe goes out with King Saul, enters the necromancer's house, and writes down everything he sees. So he writes not as a prophet, nor as a theologian, he writes as a description of what is happening. So the text is not pointing out that Samuel the prophet was the spirit that rose, it is saying that Saul asked Samuel to appear, and Samuel appeared, the image or what they thought was Samuel.

The texts related to historiography are not analyzing the theological factors, it is only citing the things that happened, from the perspective of a scribe. Is a scribe a personality with a theological classification? In this case, no. To know what these beings are, they have to look for texts of prophetic authority, or theological authority. These do define the truth regarding the theme. A descriptive writer is not a foundation for theological analysis, but for historical analysis.

But then did Samuel arise from the dead? Using a theological book we have:

Ecc 9: 5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, nor do they have a reward in the future; because his memory was left to oblivion.
Ecc 9: 6 Both his love, his hate and his envy have perished; nor do they ever have a part forever in anything that is done under the sun.

So theologically we have that the dead stop thinking, or feeling, as if they cease to exist.

In prophetic books we have:

Jer 51:57 I will make intoxicated its princes and its wise men, its governors, its magistrates, and its valiant ones; and they will sleep in perpetual sleep, and will never wake up, says the King, whose name is the Lord of hosts.

What is analyzed in another theological book.

1Th 4:13 But we do not want brothers to be ignorant of those who are already asleep, lest you be grieved like the others who have no hope.
1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, so also those who sleep, God, through Jesus, will bring them back with him.

In this compendium between the theological view, the prophetic view, and the analysis of the union by another theological view, we have that Samuel who died was not the one who appeared in the text compendium reported in the historical text. Since, through the prophetic and theological text, the man who dies has a disconnection from the living soul system, (לנפשׁ חיה׃), needing a body to return to the position of a living soul.

Theologically we have:

Ecc 12: 7 and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

Thus in prophetic content the theological concept of perishing feelings and memory is analyzed prophetically with a sleep.

And prophetically we have.

Gen 2: 7 And the Lord God formed man from the dust of the earth, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

So a human being needs a breath of life and a body. Without which it is in an intermediate state.

Now who was that that appeared through the necromancer? We see by the fundamentals that it was not Samuel, so it was a lie, and so who was this lie formed from? Using a prophetic theologian book we have:

Joh_8: 44 You have the Devil as your father, and you want to fulfill your father's wishes; he has been a murderer from the beginning, and has never established himself in the truth, because there is no truth in him; when he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own; because he is a liar, and the father of lies.

Therefore, we conclude that emanation is an action of the Devil, (διάβολος - diabolos).


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